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Should Panasonic create lenses for both systems.
C Sean
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Should Panasonic create lenses for both systems.
1 day ago

I know I'll upset some people.

There are plenty of M43 lenses right now and Panasonic are playing catch up with other Full Frame companies who trying to out compete each other by:

  • Making stella lenses
  • Making smaller lenses
  • Making more expensive lenses (Canon)

Recently Panasonic announced a 100mm 2.8 compact Macro Lens for the L-Mount. However, soon Panasonic will be releasing a compact 100-400 for the L Mount, sadly slower than the PL 100-400 but probably better IQ.

If Panasonic wanted to, it probably could re-release some of their L mount lenses with M43 mounts. The only problem is these lenses would only fit on some of the bodies like GX9, maybe the GH6 and maybe ONLY the G9ii. Since the G9ii and maybe the GH7 are the only cameras guaranteed big enough to support a L- Mount lens. The market share for such adaption would be small.

PS. Release the GX10.

Panasonic if they wanted to, they could re-release the 100mm 2.8 for their G9ii. They could re-release the 100-400 5.6/6.3? for the G9ii. They could make a compact 200-500 for both systems.

However, like I already pointed out, many modern M43 cameras don't have the space to fit a Full Frame lens on.

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Woody S
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Re: Should Panasonic create lenses for both systems.
1 day ago

Not sure I see your point, you've already said MFT has a broad range of lenses and most MFT bodies might not be able to support an adapted FF lens. Why would Panasonic invest the funds to produce adapted lenses for a VERY limited range of MFT cameras some of which duplicate existing lenses (100-400mm and the rumored OMDS 50-250mm). Remember the Olympus 100-400mm lens is said to be an adapted Sigma 100-400mm and the major complaint about that lens is its size and weight.

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ai snapshot
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1 day ago

he's just another person, not satisfied with what exists and what Panasonic have done, and only really wants is an upgraded GX camera. This is just another way of writing that endless, I I want a new  camera

C Sean
OP C Sean
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1 day ago

ai snapshot wrote:

he's just another person, not satisfied with what exists and what Panasonic have done, and only really wants is an upgraded GX camera. This is just another way of writing that endless, I I want a new camera

eeerrrr No. Utterly WRONG!

Anyway, if you look at the comment section over at 43rumor. At least one person asked why can't Panasonic convert the 100mm 2.8 to a M43 mount. But anyway apparently people don't want a 200mm macro lens... Especially a compact one. Like people don't want more wildlife lenses. I mean look at Sony, Canon and Nikon wasting all that money making new lenses people will not buy.

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Skeeterbytes
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1 day ago

Seems like they've kept m4/3 on life support while putting most lens resources into L mount.

Since 2020, 9 new L lenses and 4 new m4/3 lenses, 2 of which are refreshes. They drop the 200/2.8, so a net gain of 3.

Crossover between APS and m4/e makes sense, but 135 and m4/3? Not sure folks are clamoring for oversized new glass, but maybe a specialty lens like a macro is an exception? Will be surprised if it appears.

Rick

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Wingsfan
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1 day ago

Skeeterbytes wrote:

Seems like they've kept m4/3 on life support while putting most lens resources into L mount.

Since 2020, 9 new L lenses and 4 new m4/3 lenses, 2 of which are refreshes. They drop the 200/2.8, so a net gain of 3.

Crossover between APS and m4/e makes sense, but 135 and m4/3? Not sure folks are clamoring for oversized new glass, but maybe a specialty lens like a macro is an exception? Will be surprised if it appears.

Rick

Agree, You'll end up with huge lenses and wonky equivalent focal lengths. We are getting to the point where there isn't much left out there to do for m43, although I am getting tired of waiting for Olympus to release those zoom lenses, and bought some RF rough equivalents recently.

One of the things that sticks in my craw is that there are a lot of great RF lenses out there for the full frame bodies, and I'm very happy with those lenses on my full frame RF gear, but for birding I have an r10 with a 1.6 crop, and with just a few exceptions, the RF lenses are enormous on that particular body, and most are kind of wonky focal lengths as well.. And Canon doesn't have a history of releasing high quality EFS lenses, so I'm not holding my breath for any high quality RFS lenses either....

So be glad we have such a wide variety of gear already available with m43em as it is. I'm glad that the focus technology is now catching up to the capability of the lenses.

ai snapshot
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Re: Should Panasonic create lenses for both systems.
1 day ago

m43 Gas mentality all because the L mount gets a new lens

jalywol
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1 day ago

C Sean wrote:

ai snapshot wrote:

he's just another person, not satisfied with what exists and what Panasonic have done, and only really wants is an upgraded GX camera. This is just another way of writing that endless, I I want a new camera

eeerrrr No. Utterly WRONG!

Anyway, if you look at the comment section over at 43rumor. At least one person asked why can't Panasonic convert the 100mm 2.8 to a M43 mount. But anyway apparently people don't want a 200mm macro lens... Especially a compact one. Like people don't want more wildlife lenses. I mean look at Sony, Canon and Nikon wasting all that money making new lenses people will not buy.

No, no.  Look, that 100mm lens does NOT have OIS.  BIG liability in a macro...esp one that will end up with an effective 200mm ff equiv FOV.  (The Oly 90mm macro has OIS, and is native to the system, which means the glass is designed for best resolution on the smaller/denser sensor pixels/wells, which the FF version will not be).   Weight difference?  Sure, it's 150g lighter....but again, no OIS, AND it's wider in diameter, which is going to be uncomfortable on many of the M43 bodies.

Now, IF Panasonic brings the new technology that's IN the lens to new M43 lenses, THAT will be a bonus. (Smaller, faster, aperture mechanism, etc).  But sharing the lenses themselves?  No.

-J

Pete_W
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Re: Should Panasonic create lenses for both systems.
1 day ago

Skeeterbytes wrote:

Seems like they've kept m4/3 on life support while putting most lens resources into L mount.

I'm not sure how you've reached the conclusion that Panasonic have "kept m4/3 on life support"?

A few months ago they released a new flagship m4/3 camera body in the G9II, and put a lot of effort in the marketing and support resources for it.

Given the wide range of lenses already available for the m4/3 mount, I don't expect they will be pumping out 2or 3 new lenses each year.

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eques
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Puzzled
1 day ago

OP is talking about SMALL lenses in FF and M43 maunt, so why are people moaning about getting oversized FF lenses?

I'd buy the 100 f/2.8 macro with under 400g at once. I never will buy the huge Olympus 90mm though.

And look at the 90mm f/2.8 Sigma, it is even smaller and would be a great addition to M43.

I'd wish, it were possible to adapt Sony E mount to M43, but the flange distance of M43 is 1.125mm longer than Sony E. It would be great to adapt the tiny 10-20 f/4 toM43!

Peter

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