hey guys,

i have been a canon 5d mark iv shooter for a long time and bought a r6mark ii and when I look at my 5d images - in most cases - they look way better, there is more quality to the image. there is 6mp difference, i know, but it came as a surprise to me. I downloaded the preview sample gallery of the r5 and still I think the 5d mark iv images look better.

the r5/r6 images don't look bad, but there is just more quality in the image of the 5d mark iv. I also like the colors of the 5d more than the r6/r5.

I was wondering if IBIS is the cause of this quality loss, I have no pro engineering experience but it feels like too much shake correction with is and ibis is decreasing image quality. for me it feels like a static sensor provides better images, but of course, you have more steady shots with the r system.

I was wondering if anyone experienced something similar, because on youtube everyone is kind of declaring the r5 as the clear winner, but for me it is tough to say that. AF, video specs yes, but just photo quality, I  think the 5D Mark IV is even better.

cfk10 wrote:

hey guys,

i have been a canon 5d mark iv shooter for a long time and bought a r6mark ii and when I look at my 5d images - in most cases - they look way better, there is more quality to the image. there is 6mp difference, i know, but it came as a surprise to me. I downloaded the preview sample gallery of the r5 and still I think the 5d mark iv images look better.

the r5/r6 images don't look bad, but there is just more quality in the image of the 5d mark iv. I also like the colors of the 5d more than the r6/r5.

I was wondering if IBIS is the cause of this quality loss, I have no pro engineering experience but it feels like too much shake correction with is and ibis is decreasing image quality. for me it feels like a static sensor provides better images, but of course, you have more steady shots with the r system.

I was wondering if anyone experienced something similar, because on youtube everyone is kind of declaring the r5 as the clear winner, but for me it is tough to say that. AF, video specs yes, but just photo quality, I think the 5D Mark IV is even better.

Nope. Not my experience at all. There was little obvious/visual difference between the two, but to the extent that there was I definitely leaned towards the R5. I kept them both for a year and a half before deciding to lket many 5DIV go (to my adult son, so its still in the family, sort of).

One area where the R5 was clearly far ahead of the 5DIV was in stabilization, especially when used with RF L series lenses (compared to the 5DIV with stabilized EF L lenses). The ability to get tack sharp images with the likes fo the RF 70-200 F2.8 L at very very slow shutter speeds (e.g.1/10th of a second at 200mm) is unparalleled in MY experience with other non R series camera/lens combinations.

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In order to (start to) see why you're having issues, it'd be best to post some samples (esp comparisons) containing full EXIF, and shooting settings and conditions.  Also a description of your post-processing software and workflow.

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The 5D series without DPAF have the best IQ, especially the colors, IMO.

Nimonus wrote:

The 5D series without DPAF have the best IQ, especially the colors, IMO.

Especially the OP's 5DIV, first camera in the 5-series with DPAF.

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What quality are you looking for? Color? Sharpness? Can you be more specific?

thanks for sharing your opinion!

smilerliu wrote:

What quality are you looking for? Color? Sharpness? Can you be more specific?

yes I am looking for color, sharpness but also detail and the look and feel of an image without any technical aspects in mind

here an example with 2 images, it is the same location with a little variation, first is r6 mark ii and 2nd is 5d mark iv. idk if you can download it. There is a magenta shift in the r6, that happens to me quite a lot with the r6 mark ii, but not that dramatic because it is probably because of the lighting and awb was on. If I compare both, I like the look and feel of the 5D more and I actually cannot be very specific why, it looks sharper and more detailed to me than the r6 with the same exact lens

Canon R6 Mark II + Canon EF 50mm f1.2

Canon 5D Mark IV + EF 50mm f1.2

cfk10 wrote:

smilerliu wrote:

What quality are you looking for? Color? Sharpness? Can you be more specific?

yes I am looking for color, sharpness but also detail and the look and feel of an image without any technical aspects in mind

here an example with 2 images, it is the same location with a little variation, first is r6 mark ii and 2nd is 5d mark iv. idk if you can download it. There is a magenta shift in the r6, that happens to me quite a lot with the r6 mark ii, but not that dramatic because it is probably because of the lighting and awb was on. If I compare both, I like the look and feel of the 5D more and I actually cannot be very specific why, it looks sharper and more detailed to me than the r6 with the same exact lens

Canon R6 Mark II + Canon EF 50mm f1.2

Canon 5D Mark IV + EF 50mm f1.2

Completely different lighting and exposure settings, so not a fair comparison. How are you processing the RAW files?

cfk10 wrote:

smilerliu wrote:

What quality are you looking for? Color? Sharpness? Can you be more specific?

yes I am looking for color, sharpness but also detail and the look and feel of an image without any technical aspects in mind

here an example with 2 images, it is the same location with a little variation, first is r6 mark ii and 2nd is 5d mark iv. idk if you can download it. There is a magenta shift in the r6, that happens to me quite a lot with the r6 mark ii, but not that dramatic because it is probably because of the lighting and awb was on. If I compare both, I like the look and feel of the 5D more and I actually cannot be very specific why, it looks sharper and more detailed to me than the r6 with the same exact lens

Canon R6 Mark II + Canon EF 50mm f1.2

Canon 5D Mark IV + EF 50mm f1.2

There's a nearly 8 stop difference in lighting! Do you have any comparison shots taken in similar lighting, with similar camera settings?

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